@aral what puzzles me slightly is that Varoufakis posts still on Twitter. Hasn't he gotten the news this is a Nazi show now?

@maxheadroom Don’t even get me started :) https://ar.al/notes/farewell-not-goodbye/

@hans @maxheadroom I’ve basically come to the conclusion that no hierarchical structure, regardless of where it sits on the spectrum is fit for purpose if that purpose is to devolve power and make progress towards a fair, equal, and just society. So I’d look for flat structures that are not trying to replace the current power hierarchy with their own but to dismantle that hierarchy.

@aral @maxheadroom I want hierarchy dismantling but am quite concerned that by avoiding authority, we (progressives) are opting out of social leadership.

@hans @aral @maxheadroom allow me to suggest that focusing too much on (anti-)hierarchy reproduces it. Since reading Christoph Spehr's "eine Grundlegung der freien Kooperation" around 2000 I rather focus on how free cooperation can take many different forms including (temporary) hierarchical ones but requires the freedom to exit without sanctions .... No English translation I know off but here is an English interview with Christoph https://networkcultures.org/geert/out-cooperating-the-empire-exchange-with-christoph-spehr/ from 2006 and still on point today

@hpk the interview is great, I'm only halfway through and have marked it up with highlights. Wish I read German.

@hans great to hear you also appreciate it. It's indeed a long interview and discussion and contains a lot of interesting points (even though the praise of wikipedia is a bit too high in hindsight, but ok) even 18 years it was conducted. I still know of no other german intellectual promoting a similarly deep understanding of free co-operation, and the distinction of online and physical interactions. It's a pity that his german essays and writing have not been translated much as far as i see.